Comments on: What A CMS Should Be. http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/ Thoughts on sales, marketing and the internet. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:14:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Greg http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-49788 Greg Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:05:17 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-49788 Open Source provides a purpose in the marketplace but for many businesses it can be as much of a nightmare as being locked into one provider. If I owed a business that was looking for a CMS I would defintely go direct to a CMS provider rather being at the mercy of in-house developers working on Open Source that can leave at a moments notice. In-fact from my experience I would say companies are becoming more dis-gruntled with Open Source esp. large implementations that very often go horribly wrong. I work for CMS company based in Melbourne and we are partnering with quite a few Ad agencies. We find they are usually blown away by the features of our system as they don't have the technical knowledge to create an advanced CMS and support it full-time. I don't think Ad Agencies really want to do CMS implementations so if they can outsource it then it makes sense. At the end of the day they don't want to say no to a client as their competitors claim to do some sort of digital media - be it websites, email marketing etc. It's funny watching the convergence though with Ad Agencies becoming more like Technology companies and Tech companies becoming more like Ad Agencies. Geuss it goes back to the Bluefreeway dream.... Open Source provides a purpose in the marketplace but for many businesses it can be as much of a nightmare as being locked into one provider.

If I owed a business that was looking for a CMS I would defintely go direct to a CMS provider rather being at the mercy of in-house developers working on Open Source that can leave at a moments notice. In-fact from my experience I would say companies are becoming more dis-gruntled with Open Source esp. large implementations that very often go horribly wrong.

I work for CMS company based in Melbourne and we are partnering with quite a few Ad agencies. We find they are usually blown away by the features of our system as they don’t have the technical knowledge to create an advanced CMS and support it full-time. I don’t think Ad Agencies really want to do CMS implementations so if they can outsource it then it makes sense. At the end of the day they don’t want to say no to a client as their competitors claim to do some sort of digital media - be it websites, email marketing etc.

It’s funny watching the convergence though with Ad Agencies becoming more like Technology companies and Tech companies becoming more like Ad Agencies. Geuss it goes back to the Bluefreeway dream….

]]> By: Alister Cameron // Blogologist http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-46157 Alister Cameron // Blogologist Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:58:10 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-46157 Simon, You know my commitment to Wordpress. There is so much I love about it :) Certainly I use it for anything that's a basic blog or corporate site with not too many bells and whistles. But if I want really good e-commerce, I can forget it. If I want elaborate mutli-variate dynamic split testing and real-time test reporting, I can forget it. If I want editorial workflow, I can forget it... etc. So yeah I AM in love, but it suits a purpose. There are "CMS" purposes it doesn't really suit. One of my frustrations with it is that there are often 5 different plugins for a given feature where one would entirely do, yet in other areas there is no plugin at all (and I suck at PHP!). All that said, from a designer's standpoint I love it too. Especially with Sandbox (had to mention it!) and especially with the prospect of soon not having to worry too much about IE6 and the dodgy CSS stuffing around needed to accommodate it. But I digress :) -Alister Simon,

You know my commitment to Wordpress. There is so much I love about it :)

Certainly I use it for anything that’s a basic blog or corporate site with not too many bells and whistles.

But if I want really good e-commerce, I can forget it. If I want elaborate mutli-variate dynamic split testing and real-time test reporting, I can forget it. If I want editorial workflow, I can forget it… etc.

So yeah I AM in love, but it suits a purpose. There are “CMS” purposes it doesn’t really suit.

One of my frustrations with it is that there are often 5 different plugins for a given feature where one would entirely do, yet in other areas there is no plugin at all (and I suck at PHP!).

All that said, from a designer’s standpoint I love it too. Especially with Sandbox (had to mention it!) and especially with the prospect of soon not having to worry too much about IE6 and the dodgy CSS stuffing around needed to accommodate it. But I digress :)

-Alister

]]> By: What a CMS Should Be : Ameel’s Career & MBA Exposition (ACME) http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45315 What a CMS Should Be : Ameel’s Career & MBA Exposition (ACME) Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:31:23 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45315 [...] Black’s Simon Chen wrote a really good article today on what a Content Management System (CMS) should be. He argues that, for a company considering a CMS solution for its website, “buying into a [...] [...] Black’s Simon Chen wrote a really good article today on what a Content Management System (CMS) should be. He argues that, for a company considering a CMS solution for its website, “buying into a [...]

]]> By: Neerav http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45276 Neerav Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:54:57 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45276 PS it would be nice if you installed the "subscribe to comments" plugin PS it would be nice if you installed the “subscribe to comments” plugin

]]> By: Neerav http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45275 Neerav Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:54:17 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2008/what-a-cms-should-be/#comment-45275 Simon you are spot on Just this afternoon I started building a Wordpress site for a not-profit organisation that wants to be able to edit their website easily without having to contact me (the webmaster) each time a few words or a price needs to be changed Simon you are spot on

Just this afternoon I started building a Wordpress site for a not-profit organisation that wants to be able to edit their website easily without having to contact me (the webmaster) each time a few words or a price needs to be changed

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