Comments on: Internet Marketing Training In Chicago. http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/ Thoughts on sales, marketing and the internet. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:11:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: john andrews http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-14069 john andrews Mon, 07 May 2007 20:56:52 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-14069 There is another side effect to this pratice. Many potential speakers are put off by it as well, and so decline to participate. That doesn't help quality any. There is another side effect to this pratice. Many potential speakers are put off by it as well, and so decline to participate. That doesn’t help quality any.

]]> By: Simon Chen http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13899 Simon Chen Sun, 06 May 2007 06:04:44 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13899 Dave, answer to your question is "yes, I would". But I understand that I'm in the minority. And I also understand just how successful this model is the world over (property and investment seminar folks have been doing this for years). I remember during your presentation your comment about the long sales letter approach. Not everyone gets this. And in fact, some are put off by it. All I'd like to see is another approach. Me, I'd pay the travel expenses, hotel accommodation for all the speakers and then split the "door takings" with you. I'd let you sell product but it would be made clear from the outset what the product was and you could talk to folks all throughout the 3 days about it. That way, you dont have to rush with anything. And you know you're being compensated for your time regardless of whether you sell 1 package or 100. You delivered solid content and your "pitch" was perfectly acceptable. I appreciate you taking the time to write. Dave, answer to your question is “yes, I would”. But I understand that I’m in the minority. And I also understand just how successful this model is the world over (property and investment seminar folks have been doing this for years).

I remember during your presentation your comment about the long sales letter approach. Not everyone gets this. And in fact, some are put off by it.

All I’d like to see is another approach. Me, I’d pay the travel expenses, hotel accommodation for all the speakers and then split the “door takings” with you. I’d let you sell product but it would be made clear from the outset what the product was and you could talk to folks all throughout the 3 days about it.

That way, you dont have to rush with anything. And you know you’re being compensated for your time regardless of whether you sell 1 package or 100.

You delivered solid content and your “pitch” was perfectly acceptable.

I appreciate you taking the time to write.

]]> By: Dave Taylor http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13894 Dave Taylor Sun, 06 May 2007 05:03:59 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13894 Simon, thanks for this candid writeup. You're right, there is a bit of a conundrum for us speakers when we are in business to make money (just like everyone else) and the only way we can monetize our participation in the event -- and our expenses to travel there, time spent, etc -- is through selling products or consulting / coaching services. There are other models, but this sort of "pay for seats, get pitched, hopefully not too aggressively" approach is rather pervasive. The question is: if you could have spent time with the faculty for 2x your admission price but known that you wouldn't have even one minute of pitch from anyone AND there was higher quality, would you have attended that event? Simon, thanks for this candid writeup. You’re right, there is a bit of a conundrum for us speakers when we are in business to make money (just like everyone else) and the only way we can monetize our participation in the event — and our expenses to travel there, time spent, etc — is through selling products or consulting / coaching services. There are other models, but this sort of “pay for seats, get pitched, hopefully not too aggressively” approach is rather pervasive.

The question is: if you could have spent time with the faculty for 2x your admission price but known that you wouldn’t have even one minute of pitch from anyone AND there was higher quality, would you have attended that event?

]]> By: Wombat Selling » Blog Archive » Live At The System: Selling Online http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13636 Wombat Selling » Blog Archive » Live At The System: Selling Online Thu, 03 May 2007 05:04:47 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13636 [...] But this is where the basic model of these events is flawed. You see, the speakers all need (or want) to be compensated. So their sessions are platforms whereby they are supposed to deliver content to the audience and then gently mention that there are options for investing with them - by either buying their product or service. More from Simon … [...] [...] But this is where the basic model of these events is flawed. You see, the speakers all need (or want) to be compensated. So their sessions are platforms whereby they are supposed to deliver content to the audience and then gently mention that there are options for investing with them - by either buying their product or service. More from Simon … [...]

]]> By: Conrad http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13595 Conrad Wed, 02 May 2007 16:46:40 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13595 Hey Simon. great sharing a sandwich with you in Chicago, btw. Put me on your mailing list in case you revive X10, I am always looking for an excuse to get back to Australia! My take on the System? My sessions were good. Got better as time wore on. I got a LOT out of the dinner/bar gatherings. As for Perry, I think he sort of mailed it in this time but I am enough of a lightweight in his area that I did get something out of it. IMHO you get more out of the sessions that you are know the least about. (duh). I'll be watching your blog! Conrad Hey Simon. great sharing a sandwich with you in Chicago, btw.

Put me on your mailing list in case you revive X10, I am always looking for an excuse to get back to Australia!

My take on the System?

My sessions were good. Got better as time wore on. I got a LOT out of the dinner/bar gatherings.

As for Perry, I think he sort of mailed it in this time but I am enough of a lightweight in his area that I did get something out of it. IMHO you get more out of the sessions that you are know the least about. (duh).

I’ll be watching your blog!

Conrad

]]> By: Paul Colligan http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13483 Paul Colligan Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:45 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13483 Bring back X10 Simon ;-) P Bring back X10 Simon ;-)

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]]> By: Bruce Prokopets http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-13145 Bruce Prokopets Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:58:35 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/internet-marketing-training-in-chicago/#comment-13145 I agree with you on the Perry Marchall presentation. I wouldn'y call anything about that session "advanced". If there is anything I have learned from this it's to pick your breakouts wisely. I agree with you on the Perry Marchall presentation. I wouldn’y call anything about that session “advanced”. If there is anything I have learned from this it’s to pick your breakouts wisely.

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