Comments on: In Web 2.0, Here’s 2 Things I Don’t Get… http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/ Thoughts on sales, marketing and the internet. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:11:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Twitter; the new talkback? « Wide Open Spaces http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-44840 Twitter; the new talkback? « Wide Open Spaces Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:33:28 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-44840 [...] friend just asked me if I really thought Twitter was going to take off, and I guess around that are a host of questions on the value it offers to its users. Maki has some great thoughts on ways it adds value to its [...] [...] friend just asked me if I really thought Twitter was going to take off, and I guess around that are a host of questions on the value it offers to its users. Maki has some great thoughts on ways it adds value to its [...]

]]> By: Carts and Horses; Forrester’s POST Methodology « Wide Open Spaces http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-44301 Carts and Horses; Forrester’s POST Methodology « Wide Open Spaces Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:24:52 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-44301 [...] may change, it may not. It depends on how Twitter continues to grow, how it evolves, how much sense it makes to people in the coming months. But given the process that POST outlines, I would have noticed straight away [...] [...] may change, it may not. It depends on how Twitter continues to grow, how it evolves, how much sense it makes to people in the coming months. But given the process that POST outlines, I would have noticed straight away [...]

]]> By: Cait http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-42676 Cait Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:36:36 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-42676 You're not too old. You're not following enough people on Twitter. It's a constant flowing river, but only if there's enough data flowing through from a wide variety of sources. When I want up-to-the-minute news, I go straight to Twitter, when I want to keep in touch with friends while I'm out and about I use Twitter SMS notifications, when I want to IM someone, I just use Twitter direct message. I rarely use Twitter for an update of what I'm doing, it's more of a communication tool than a micro blog. If any Australian carrier offers free SMS to Twitter, I'm switching carriers. If you love SMS, you'll love Twitter too, once you add more people you know. An avatar is nothing more than an icon, just like a Twitter icon, Flickr icon or a Facebook icon. While some people use photos of themselves, many people don't, an avatar is a just a placeholder representation, not an identity or persona. I like Second Life for it's creativity. It's an Open Source virtual world where you can disobey the laws of physics, create new things without any programming knowledge, all while communicating with people over voice chat that's as good as Skype. You’re not too old. You’re not following enough people on Twitter. It’s a constant flowing river, but only if there’s enough data flowing through from a wide variety of sources.

When I want up-to-the-minute news, I go straight to Twitter, when I want to keep in touch with friends while I’m out and about I use Twitter SMS notifications, when I want to IM someone, I just use Twitter direct message. I rarely use Twitter for an update of what I’m doing, it’s more of a communication tool than a micro blog. If any Australian carrier offers free SMS to Twitter, I’m switching carriers. If you love SMS, you’ll love Twitter too, once you add more people you know.

An avatar is nothing more than an icon, just like a Twitter icon, Flickr icon or a Facebook icon. While some people use photos of themselves, many people don’t, an avatar is a just a placeholder representation, not an identity or persona.

I like Second Life for it’s creativity. It’s an Open Source virtual world where you can disobey the laws of physics, create new things without any programming knowledge, all while communicating with people over voice chat that’s as good as Skype.

]]> By: What’s with this Twitter thing? at Michael Specht - discussions on HR and technology http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41748 What’s with this Twitter thing? at Michael Specht - discussions on HR and technology Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:44:55 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41748 [...] Simon Chen from EightBlack say he still doesn’t get Twitter and that maybe he is too old at 41. Simon shame on you for even thinking it is cause you are too [...] [...] Simon Chen from EightBlack say he still doesn’t get Twitter and that maybe he is too old at 41. Simon shame on you for even thinking it is cause you are too [...]

]]> By: Cameron Reilly http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41442 Cameron Reilly Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:24:09 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41442 Simon, I understand your pain. Just think of both twitter and SL as new ways for people to communicate with their friends throughout the day. Sharing stories and talking about our fears, hopes, dreams and frustrations is a critical part of the human condition. It's the basis of society and all human culture. Twitter and Second Life are just new tools that enable us to communicate these things throughout the day with friends around the world. Simon, I understand your pain. Just think of both twitter and SL as new ways for people to communicate with their friends throughout the day. Sharing stories and talking about our fears, hopes, dreams and frustrations is a critical part of the human condition. It’s the basis of society and all human culture. Twitter and Second Life are just new tools that enable us to communicate these things throughout the day with friends around the world.

]]> By: incorporated subversion - education, media, community » Blog Archive » Of the addictions of twits without a life http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41224 incorporated subversion - education, media, community » Blog Archive » Of the addictions of twits without a life Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:44:45 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41224 [...] But I have to say, it was refreshing to hear Simon Chen calling it as it is and expressing something that I’ve been waffling on about over beers for some time but never here… WTF is it about Second Life and Twitter? [...] [...] But I have to say, it was refreshing to hear Simon Chen calling it as it is and expressing something that I’ve been waffling on about over beers for some time but never here… WTF is it about Second Life and Twitter? [...]

]]> By: Ross Hill http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41208 Ross Hill Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:29:02 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41208 I see Twitter as more of a IRC backchannel than an sms app, although that is probably because the MODM twitterholics send way too many messages for me to consider getting it all by sms. Using the twitterific app on a mac you get little popup windows every few minutes with updates, which isn't too intensive but keeps you in the conversation. Second Life.. I still don't get. I see Twitter as more of a IRC backchannel than an sms app, although that is probably because the MODM twitterholics send way too many messages for me to consider getting it all by sms. Using the twitterific app on a mac you get little popup windows every few minutes with updates, which isn’t too intensive but keeps you in the conversation.

Second Life.. I still don’t get.

]]> By: csven http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41203 csven Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:57:40 +0000 http://blog.eightblack.com/2007/in-web-20-heres-2-things-i-dont-get/#comment-41203 fwiw, I'm older than you and I use both. I'm less interested in Facebook, MySpace and other socnet apps bc they're more likely to mine data and spring ads on users. wrt Twitter, I don't use it like many others. It's primarily a kind of online notepad for a project of mine. My twits are "protected" bc I don't care to broadcast to the world. And I keep my connections limited to ppl working or studying in areas of interest to me. And I prune my entries. I only keep those relevant to my project. The rest get sheered after a day. wrt Second Life, I don't hide my identity and never have. For me it's always been about the potential. To understand what I and some others see in that regard, you might find a couple of my own blog entries interesting as I'm focused on the merging of CAD and PLM applications with virtual worlds and marries that to rapid manufacturing. Try this recent entry, http://blog.rebang.com/?p=1411 , and follow the links in the first comment. Watch the movie. When someone designs something and uses SL to sell it to Wal*Mart, and *then* sells 300,000 units, people should pay attention imo. fwiw, I’m older than you and I use both. I’m less interested in Facebook, MySpace and other socnet apps bc they’re more likely to mine data and spring ads on users.

wrt Twitter, I don’t use it like many others. It’s primarily a kind of online notepad for a project of mine. My twits are “protected” bc I don’t care to broadcast to the world. And I keep my connections limited to ppl working or studying in areas of interest to me. And I prune my entries. I only keep those relevant to my project. The rest get sheered after a day.

wrt Second Life, I don’t hide my identity and never have. For me it’s always been about the potential. To understand what I and some others see in that regard, you might find a couple of my own blog entries interesting as I’m focused on the merging of CAD and PLM applications with virtual worlds and marries that to rapid manufacturing. Try this recent entry, http://blog.rebang.com/?p=1411 , and follow the links in the first comment. Watch the movie. When someone designs something and uses SL to sell it to Wal*Mart, and *then* sells 300,000 units, people should pay attention imo.

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